Musa and Pandikar argue over decision to debate bill a day earlier then scheduled
KOTA KINABALU:
A war of words erupted between : Chief Minister Datuk Seri Musa Aman and Tempasuk Assemblyman Tan Sri Pandikar Aman Hj Mulia when they went head to head at the State Assembly here yesterday. The brief but fiery affair started when Pandikar queried the House’s decision to debate the State Records and Archives Bill 2007 a day earlier than scheduled. The bill was debated on Thursday evening in the absence of the Tempasuk assemblyman who had left the State Assembly before it was adjourned for the day. Taking the opportunity to speak prior to the start of the question and answer session, Pandikar claimed that the House had violated the point of order which requires notice to be posted to all assemblymen two days before a bill is debated. In a 20-minute tirade, he stressed that the posting of the notice is imperative as it is part and parcel of the point order which dictates the schedule of proceedings at State Assembly. “If the debate was brought forward to yesterday (Thursday), then why not also bring the question and answer session to yesterday ... I want to talk today (yesterday),” said the Government backbencher on the last day of the State Assembly sitting. Midway through his admonition, Speaker Datuk S Panglima Juhar Mahiruddin attempted to stop Pandikar saying that matters unrelated to the question and answer session could not be raised at the time according to the House regulations. Juhar: “Now we are in the question and answer session. If you wish to raise the point of order, it must be related to the question and answer session. You have raised nearly entire book on the regulation. “How are we to discuss when you are asking for too many things ... during the question and answer session I cannot allow you to raise issues of the point of order that are unrelated to the question and answer session.” Pandikar: “Tuan Speaker, the point of order outlines the regulations of the assembly. The schedule for the assembly this morning has been outlined ...“ Juhar: “Yang Berhormat, please explain what your point is?” Pandikar: “Tuan Speaker, if others did not interject, and if you did not ask I would have already finished.” Musa: “YB, your speech is too flowery, putar, putar , putar (spin, spin, spin), we don’t know how much.” Pandikar: “Tuan Speaker, listen to me first ...“ Musa: “This is a waste of time.” Pandikar: “This is not a waste of time ...“ From then on it was difficult to discern what was said between the two as both Musa and Pandikar simultaneosly launched their arguments against each other. The situation eventually settled down after Juhar managed to get both the Chief Minister and the Tempasuk assemblyman to stop the debate and allow for the question and answer session to proceed. Later at a press conference. Deputy ChiefMinister Datuk Seri Panglima Joseph Pairin Kitingan clarified that there was no violation committed by the House as claimed by Pandikar in bringing forward the tabling of the bill.
“I have been asked to clarify the issue raised by the YB from Tempasuk ... what he said is true as under Order 13 a standing order is established to arrange the agendas in the State Assembly and when there is a bill to be debated, there must be two days of notice and this applies to all bills. “However also under Order 13, there are provisions (to allow changes in the schedule). Provision 13 (2) states that the assembly may upon a motion, without notice, take precedence over other business and decide to carry out business out of the order,” he said. Pairin added that provision 13 (3) also empowers the House to proceed with any Government business as the head, in which case is the State Speaker, sees fit as communicated to his secretary. Order 50(3) also states that should any member of the House fail to comply with the standing order, it would be treated as an irregularity and does not nullify the proceedings or decision resulting thereof, he said. “So what was done was in line with the standing order ... if there is any objection it needs to be made on the day the change was made,” he said.